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Company: Kathmandu Holdings Limited

Conference Title: Annual Shareholders Meeting 2021

Date: Tuesday 23 November

Conference Time: 1:00pm NZDT


1. WELCOME:


Chairman: Good morning everyone. My name is David Kirk and I am pleased to

welcome you as Chairman of Kathmandu Holdings Limited to our 2021

Annual Shareholders Meeting.

The Board decided to convene this year’s Annual Meeting as a virtual-

only meeting given the ongoing uncertainties caused by COVID-19 and

the restrictions on travel and gatherings that we have all experienced

during 2021.

I extend a warm welcome to all shareholders joining us online today

through our virtual meeting platform provided by our share registrar,

Link Market Services.

I declare that a quorum of shareholders is present and the meeting has

been duly convened. I am also pleased to officially open online voting.

2. INTRODUCTION:

Chairman: Before we start the formal business, I would like to introduce my fellow

Directors to you.

• Philip Bowman;

• John Harvey;

• Abby Foote;

• Brent Scrimshaw;

• Andrea Martens;

• and Michael Daly, our Group CEO and Managing Director


I also welcome Leo Foliaki and Inky Lee from PricewaterhouseCoopers,

Chris Kinraid, our Group Chief Financial Officer, and Frances Blundell,

Company Secretary.


3. MEETING PROCEDURES:

Chairman: In terms of the format of today’s meeting, I will start by making some

brief comments about the 2021 financial year for Kathmandu Holdings.





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I will then hand over to Michael, who will provide more details on the

achievements and challenges we have experienced during the past

year, including a summary of the Group’s financial performance and

future strategy.

We will then move to the formal business of the meeting. There are

four resolutions to be considered by shareholders today and these are

set out in the Notice of Meeting. An opportunity will be given to

shareholders to ask questions about, or make comments on, the items

of business on the agenda for today’s meeting.

All voting on the resolutions to be put to today’s Meeting will be

conducted by way of a poll.

To vote, you will need to click “Get Voting Card” within the online

meeting platform. You will be asked to validate your registration by

entering your Shareholder or Proxy Number, which can be found on

your proxy form. Once your registration is validated, you will receive

an electronic voting card which will enable you to cast your votes on

each of the resolutions that we will consider today. You can cast your

votes on the resolutions at any time during the meeting today.

Please mark your voting card in the way you wish to vote by clicking

“FOR”, “AGAINST” or "ABSTAIN" on the voting card. Once you have

made your selection please click “Submit Vote” on the bottom of the

card to lodge your vote.

If you have any issues with registration or voting, please refer to the

Link Market Services virtual meeting online portal guide that can be

accessed through the virtual meeting weblink or call the helpline on

0800 200 220.

There will also be an opportunity, after the resolutions set out in the

Notice of Meeting have been considered, for shareholders to ask any

questions of a more general nature.

To ask a question online, you will need to validate your registration.

Please use the question function, and your question will be conveyed

to the meeting. If you need further information about how to ask a

question, please refer to the virtual meeting online portal guide or call

the help line on 0800 200 220. I would encourage you to send through

your questions as soon as you can. Questions may be moderated or

combined with other questions where they relate to the same topic.





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4. PROXIES:

Chairman:


Valid proxies have been received from 311 of shareholders holding

approximately 58% of issued shares. More than 95% of the proxies

directed are in favour of all resolutions.


5. MINUTES

Chairman: The minutes of the 2020 Annual Meeting held last year have been

reviewed and approved by the Board and signed by me as a true and

correct record of the meeting.

6. ANNUAL REPORT

Chairman:


I also note that the Company’s Annual Report is available to all

shareholders through the Company’s investor website. Any

shareholder who has not received a copy of the Annual Report in

the post, but would like to request a physical copy, can do so by

contacting the Company Secretary or our share registrar, Link

Market Services. We will address any questions from shareholders

on the Annual Report or Financial Statements under General

Business later in the meeting.

7. CHAIRMAN’S

ADDRESS

Chairman:


The first item on today’s agenda is for me, as Chairman, to make

some comments on the 2021 financial year.

The Group ended the 2021 financial year in a strong financial

position, while continuing to navigate the impacts of the COVID

pandemic.

Following the acquisition of Rip Curl in 2019, the Group has three

iconic brands, and our results for the 2021 financial year show the

benefit of the Group’s diversified channels to market, geographies,

and product categories.

We are excited by the growth prospects of all our brands, and are

investing in digital infrastructure, our store network, and continued

brand development to maximise opportunities as we look to a post-

COVID world.

The Group moved quickly at the onset of the COVID pandemic to

raise capital to strengthen the balance sheet, reduce costs and

adjust operating structures, all of which has left us well-positioned

for the recovery in travel and the opening of economies that is

happening now.





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The Group ended the 2021 financial year with a net cash position of

$37.0 million, providing significant funding headroom with a total

bank facility of approximately $300 million.

Following the suspension of dividends last year, the directors

declared a final dividend of 3 NZ cents per share. With the 2 cents

per share interim dividend, this will make a total pay out for the

2021 financial year of 5 NZ cents per share.

Moving on to people, the Board appointed a new Group Chief

Executive Officer during the year.

Former Group CEO Xavier Simonet resigned after five and a half

years with the company. Xavier led the Group through an important

period of growth and diversification, including the acquisitions of

the Oboz and Rip Curl brands.

After an extensive international search, the Board appointed

Michael Daly as the new Group CEO. Michael has led Rip Curl for

eight years with a relentless focus on brand, product, people and

the bottom line. We are confident he will bring the same focus and

energy to the wider Group.

Under the leadership of Michael, our refreshed Group strategy

ensures we are focused on the things that matter most as we move

forward:

• building global brands focused on active outdoor

activities,

• investing in digital platforms to provide consumers with a

truly world class unified commerce experience,

• leveraging the operational excellence of our brands, and

• leadership in ESG.


Michael will talk more about these strategic imperatives in his

address.

The Board would like to thank Michael and his teams for their

outstanding resilience and flexibility navigating the ongoing impacts

of COVID.

I would also like to thank my Board colleagues for their continuing

commitment to making Kathmandu Holdings successful. It has been

a very busy year and I thank you all for your support in navigating

our way through it.





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Finally, thank you shareholders for your continued investment in

Kathmandu Holdings Limited.


I will now ask our Group CEO, Michael Daly, to address you.


8. GROUP CEO ADDRESS

Group CEO:


Thank you, David. Good Morning everyone, and thank you for joining us at

today’s Annual Meeting.


Beginning on slide five, we aspire to be a leading owner of global brands,

appealing to an active, outdoor consumer. This slide outlines the strengths

and collective competitive advantages of our three brands.


Rip Curl is among the top three global surf brands, Kathmandu is the leading

outdoor brand in Australasia, and Oboz is a fast-growing North American hike

footwear brand.


We are highly engaged with our loyal and active consumer base, achieving a

net promoter score that exceeds 70. We have 2.1 million active Summit Club

members and 44,000 Rip Curl Search GPS watch users.


One of our key strengths is the development of purpose-built technical

products. Research and development drives our innovation, and we are

focused on using sustainable materials.


A leader in sustainability and ESG. Kathmandu was an early B-Corp adopter,

and we are working towards extending B-Corp accreditation across all of our

brands. This year, we also committed to the largest syndicated sustainability

linked loan in New Zealand.


Most importantly, we have built a diversified business with global reach. We

are employing a multi-channel approach to appeal to a wide range of

customer buying preferences and having both a winter and summer focus.

We now appeal to customers across seasons and across the globe.


Turning to slide six, I would like to discuss in more detail the Group's 2021

financial year highlights. The Group benefited from a full 12 months of Rip

Curl ownership in the 2021 financial year, compared to nine months of

ownership last year.


Total Group sales were $922.8 million, up 15.1% on the prior year. Pleasingly

our underlying EBITDA was up 35.9% to $113.3 million, underpinned by a

gross margin improvement of 40 basis points.





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Underlying net profit after tax for the financial year was $66.3 million and we

delivered strong underlying operating cash flow of $93.3 million.


As David mentioned, we ended the period with a strong net cash balance of

$37 million.


Moving to slide seven, I want to touch on some of the key operational

highlights during the year.


Rip Curl delivered strong direct to consumer sales, with same store sales

growth of 19.2% including online sales growth of 31.3%. Online growth was

underpinned by changing consumer preferences brought about by the COVID

lockdown periods.


We successfully relaunched Kathmandu's new brand platform in May,

reminding people that being outside changes us and that as human beings,

we are hardwired to be outside. The relaunch was very well received and

pleasingly Kathmandu achieved an exceptionally high net promoter score of

76.


Oboz successfully launched their online store in April, and the wholesale

business is well positioned with double-digit growth in forward orders.


Looking at slide eight, sustainability is at the core of each of our brands, and I

would like to highlight some notable achievements.


In conjunction with our key stakeholders, we completed a Group ESG

materiality assessment which has helped us identify the key areas of focus for

development of our ESG strategy. This year, we also committed to the largest

sustainability linked loan in New Zealand at the time of its signing.


During 2021, Rip Curl launched a wetsuit take-back program with TerraCycle.

The business also sources its sustainable cotton in line with the Better Cotton

Initiative. These are important sustainability initiatives for the Rip Curl brand.


The Kathmandu brand meets the highest standards of environmental and

social performance as certified by its B-Corp status. The Kathmandu brand has

offset its operational carbon footprint to obtain certified carbon neutrality.


For Oboz, over 4 million trees have been planted since the company's

inception, with the company planting a tree for every pair of footwear sold.

Oboz has 95% environmentally preferred leather materials in its product

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Moving to our Group strategy on slide nine, you can see a summary of the

four key components we are focussing on as a group.


We have been building a portfolio of global brands and aim to further expand

our global footprint as we invest in world class brands and customer

experiences.


We will elevate our digital capabilities by investing in Group digital platforms

to deliver a world class unified commerce experience.


We will also leverage and deliver operational excellence to all of our brands

across shared Group support functions.


Finally, we will continue to demonstrate leadership across environmental,

social and governance to drive long-term value for our shareholders.


Given the uncertainties associated with COVID, it is important for us to

maintain balance sheet flexibility, allowing for capital return options and the

capacity for future M&A.


I will now go into each of these strategic components in a little more detail.


Onto slide ten, a key part of our strategy focuses on building global brands.

Our goal is for Rip Curl to be the number one surf brand in Australasia and a

top three brand in North America and Europe. We will be building Rip Curl’s

North American presence and see the potential to double the North American

business across our own stores, online and wholesale channels.


Kathmandu is the leading outdoor brand in Australasia, with 2.1 million loyal

and engaged Summit Club members, which we aim to further leverage. There

is significant market opportunity to expand into Europe and North America,

and we aim to launch in both Canada and Europe during FY22. We have an

attractive new product pipeline, which includes an enhanced summer

product offering.


Oboz is undergoing the expansion of its product range into adjacent footwear

categories, and we aim to grow Oboz into a US$100 million business in the

medium-term with growth opportunities in the recently launched online store

and further expansion of the business in Canada and also Europe, in time.


Moving to slide 11, with the current COVID situation accelerating a move to

online sales, significant investments have been made to elevate our digital

capabilities.





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Our goal is to increase Group online sales to 25% of direct-to-consumer sales

in the medium-term by enhancing our digital capability.


With this goal in mind, a new Group online platform is being rolled out across

our brands. We also are making further enhancements to our omnichannel

foundations, including making point of sale upgrades to support unified

commerce and click and collect functions for contactless purchases. In time,

we aim to exceed our consumers’ minimum expectations in these areas.


We see loyalty as an important growth driver for our brands. We are investing

in our loyalty programs, including the launch of Rip Curl’s first loyalty

programme, and the relaunch of Kathmandu’s more advanced loyalty

programme in the coming year.


Finally, a key area of focus for us is to make sure we understand our

consumers better, through data insights and analysis. Pricing and promotions

are being enhanced based on data algorithms, and we have developed

personalised consumer contact to encourage digital purchases, and really

leverage the relationships with our consumers.


Moving on to slide 12. Whilst a lot of work has been done to bring our three

brands together, in reality there is still a lot of work to be done to leverage

the operational excellence of all of our brands.


We plan to accelerate cross-brand revenue growth opportunities where

appropriate, and aggressively pursue ongoing realisation of margin and cost

saving opportunities over time.


Investments will be made to optimise our supply chain, efficiently manage our

fixed cost base, collaborate on product innovation between brands and to

enhance core systems to unlock growth potential across loyalty programs and

online.


Overall, we have set a target to improve our underlying EBITDA margin to 15%

of sales in the medium-term.


Moving to slide 13, being a leader in ESG will drive long-term value for

shareholders.


Kathmandu has been an early mover in this space, and we are now working

to extend Kathmandu's B-Corp accreditation across all of our brands.


However, we want to go further than B-Corp accreditation. We have

completed a ESG materiality assessment in recent months across the Group,

talking to all our stakeholders about where we can do better, and where our





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areas of focus should be. The three focus areas resulting from that assessment

are shown on the slide.


We are highly engaged with our people and our communities, and our ESG

strategy starts with the wellbeing of our staff, the workers in our supply chain,

and the communities that we operate in.


In 2022, we will be setting Science Based Targets that align with the Paris

Climate Agreement, and holding ourselves accountable to those targets.

Finally, we are embracing the principles of circularity in everything we do,

from the design, development, and sourcing of our products, through to the

delivery of those products to our consumers, ultimately targeting a zero-

waste supply chain.


Principles of transparency and responsibility will continue to underpin

everything that we do as we manage our environmental and social impact

responsibly and ethically.


Moving to slide 14, here is the trading update that we released as part of our

Investor Day two weeks ago.


The first quarter was heavily impacted by COVID closures, which were longer

and deeper than the same period last year.


Same store sales for Rip Curl were -9.4% compared to last year overall

(including online), and for Kathmandu -17.6% below last year. However, when

we exclude stores forced to close because of COVID lockdowns, we have seen

positive growth. For Kathmandu +16.3% and for Rip Curl +1.6%, which has

consolidated +27% COVID-adjusted same store growth from the first quarter

last year for the Rip Curl Brand.


Pleasingly our online channels have been strong, up +33.8% overall, with Rip

Curl up 11.2%, and Kathmandu up +58.4%.


As previously signalled, COVID has had a significant impact in the first quarter,

particularly in our New Zealand, New South Wales and Victorian markets.

Without any direct government subsidies being recognised in the first quarter

this year, operating profit is approximately $35 million lower than the first

quarter of last year.


However, we are now seeing positive momentum in the short period since

reopening in our key New South Wales, Victoria and Auckland market in New

Zealand.





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In terms of outlook, Rip Curl and Kathmandu are well prepared for the key

Black Friday and Christmas trading periods. Inventory remains sufficient to

meet expected demand overall.


Due to the uncertain COVID trading environment, we will not provide any

forward guidance, however, as mentioned previously, as markets reopen,

trading is expected to improve. There is growth opportunity, particularly in

the second half, as we hope to trade the full period compared to lockdowns

in June and July of last year.


A key priority is for our brands to increase investment in marketing,

sustainability, and loyalty to support our “Build Global Brands” strategy.

Whilst Rip Curl and Oboz wholesale orders remain significantly above pre-

COVID levels, supply chain continues to be a challenge globally, particularly

impacting the flow of products into our North American markets.


Oboz product deliveries will be impacted in the second quarter, as Vietnam

footwear factories slowly ramp up production following closures due to

COVID. Demand for Rip Curl wetsuits continues to exceed available supply.


Finally, freight, logistics, and raw material costs remain elevated as the

outlook for supply chain remains challenging. This will be managed where

possible through pricing and raw material substitution.


That is now the end of my presentation. Thank you for your attention. I will

hand back to David to run through the formal part of the meeting.


Chairman: Thank you Michael.


I would again like to express my thanks and those of my fellow Directors to

you and your team for the dedication and strength that you have all

demonstrated through the challenges of 2021.


9. ELECTION OF

DIRECTORS

Chairman:



Turning now to the third item on today’s agenda; the election of

Directors.


The NZX Listing Rules require that:

• a director must not hold office (without re-election) past the third

annual meeting following the director’s appointment, or 3 years,

whichever is longer; and





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• a director appointed by the board must not hold office (without re-

election) past the next annual meeting following the director’s

appointment.


So, pursuant to the NZX Listing Rules, myself, Michael Daly and Abby

Foote each retire at today’s meeting and offer ourselves for election by

shareholders.


I will now ask John Harvey to Chair the meeting for the purposes of

proposing the first resolution.


Acting Chairman:

Thank you David and good afternoon everyone.


The Board unanimously supports the re-election of David and the

election of Michael and Abby.


Information about each of David, Michael and Abby is contained in the

explanatory notes to the notice of today’s meeting.


Each of David, Michael and Abby will be asked to briefly address you as

we move through the resolutions.


To comply with the Listing Rules, it is necessary for each Director to be

appointed by separate resolution.



Acting Chairman:

RESOLUTION 1

I now move the following as an ordinary resolution:





Chairman:





That David Kirk, who retires at the Annual Meeting and is eligible for re-

election, be re-elected as a Director of the Company.


I now invite David to address the meeting.


Thank you John, I will be brief. I would just like to say to Shareholders I

am honoured and delighted to be the Chairman of the Board. I believe I

have the strong support of my fellow board members and I that we have

a very well balanced and capable board team to take the business

forward.


I remain very enthusiastic about Kathmandu and I feel we made a strong

transition from Xavier to Michael and we have reinforced and bedded in

a new strategy that is entirely appropriate for the expanded Group and

the full board is excited to support Michael and his teams in

implementing that. So, thank you for considering me for re-election.





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Acting Chairman:

Company Secretary:







Acting Chairman:


Company Secretary:



Chairman:





Thanks David.

Have we received any questions for discussion on the motion?


Yes, we have received some questions. The first question I will answer

also. The first question received from Stephen Mayne:


Did any of the main proxy advisers - ACSI, Ownership Matters, Glass Lewis

and ISS - recommend a vote against any of today's resolutions? Which of

the proxy advisers are covering us and has there been a material proxy

protest vote against any of today's resolutions? Will you disclose the proxy

votes before the debate on today's resolutions so shareholders can ask

questions if there have been any protest votes?


In response to that question the only proxy adviser that engaged with us

was the New Zealand Shareholders Association. We are not aware of any

material proxy protest votes against any of today’s resolutions and the

proxy votes received in relation to each resolution are included on the slide

deck for Shareholders to see as we move through each of the resolutions

today.


Thank you Frances, are there any further questions?


There are a couple more. So, the next question is a question directed by

Stephen Mayne to David:


ASX listed companies are required by law to have a non-binding vote on

the remuneration report each. Given that a large proportion of our register

is owned by Australian-based investors, can chair David Kirk pleased

comment on why we don't voluntarily embrace an annual vote on our

remuneration policies?


Thanks Frances, just to provide a little bit of background, our primary

listing is in the New Zealand – for Shareholders we are primarily listed on

the New Zealand Stock Exchange and the New Zealand Stock Exchange

doesn’t require a remuneration report the same way that the Australian

Stock Exchange does. We report absolutely according to the requirements

of the New Zealand Stock Exchange and that is not quite as comprehensive

when it comes to remuneration reporting as the ASX requirements but we

still think very open and clear. The Board has determined that it will

continue to discuss the difference – the differences between the two

approaches to remuneration reporting and will consider whether it makes

sense to voluntarily move somewhat closer to the Australian requirement.





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Acting Chairman:

Company Secretary:




Chairman:




Acting Chairman:

Company Secretary:

Acting Chairman:

Thank you David. Are there any more questions?


Yes, one further question also asked by Stephen Mayne:


Congratulations to David Kirk on just having his biggest ever pay day

through Bailador's exit from the Siteminder business which recently floated

and is today valued at $A1.8 billion. Could he comment on how focused

and motivated he remains as the non-executive chair of Kathmandu, when

he has far more skin in the game and exciting deals to pursue in his private

equity style Bailador business. Is he committed to serving a full 3 year term

as chair?

Yes, I can say Stephen if I am speaking directly to you as we would in an

Annual General Meeting where you would be there in person, I remain

absolutely committed to Kathmandu and will allocate plenty of my time

to doing everything I can to support the business and helping it succeed.

I think its an exciting time for the business and I am very focused on

helping it succeed.


Thank you David, Frances I think you said this was the last question?


Yes, no more questions on this resolution.


There being no further discussion, I will now put the motion.


Please cast your votes now for Resolution 1 if you have not already done

so. Please now select either “For”, “Against” or “Abstain” for Resolution

1 on the voting card.


Thank you.


I will now hand back to David to continue chairing the meeting.



RESOLUTION 2

Chairman:






Thanks very much John.


We now move to Resolution 2. I move the following as an ordinary

resolution:


That Michael Daly, who retires at the Annual Meeting and is eligible for

election, be elected as a Director of the Company.


I now invite Michael to address the meeting.





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Group CEO:








Chairman:

Company Secretary:







Chairman:


Company Secretary:








Group CEO:




Thanks David, look I’m very humbled to take on the role of the Group CEO

and Managing Director to lead these three iconic brands, extremely excited

by the opportunities that exist for each of the brands and looking forward

to playing my role in providing the leadership to steer the company through

what should be a very exciting period of growth. Certainly, very dedicated

and committed to my role and believe I have the strong support of the

Board and looking forward to working with them over the next three, five

and beyond years.


Thank you for the support and appreciate the commitment.


Thanks Michael. Have we received any questions for discussion on the

motion?


Yes we have. First question is asked by Stephen Mayne:

Australian law gives an exemption to CEOs from the director election

process. Given that New Zealand law doesn't provide such an exemption to

the CEO, we are voting on Michael Daly's election today. Could Michael and

the chair both comment on whether Kathmandu will follow the lead of ASX

listed Treasury Wine Estates and voluntarily embrace annual elections of

directors as is required in the US and UK, in order to provide greater board

accountability to shareholders.


I’ll answer the question. No, we have no intention of moving to annual

elections of directors and we don’t think it makes any material difference

to the accountability and the focus of directors.


We have one further question, also asked by Stephen Mayne:


It is unusual for a company to take over another business and then promote

the CEO of the target company to later become CEO of the whole empire.

Could Michael Daly comment on whether this arrangement was

contemplated when the Rip Curl acquisition was done in 2019 and could he

clarify how many Kathmandu shares he received as part of the sale and

whether he retained all of those shares? Also, what is the current status of

Michael’s relationship with Rip Curl founders Brian Singer and Doug

Warbrick?


Thanks for the question, a few components to that. When myself and Xavier

were originally working to bringing Rip Curl and Kathmandu together, no, it

was never contemplated to be honest that I would move into the Group

CEO role, it was never discussed. That said I am very ambitious and certainly

from my point of view a natural progression for my role knowing that I have

been the CEO at Rip Curl for over eight years and certainly looking for

continued professional progression myself and so moving from the CEO of





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Chairman:

Company Secretary:


Chairman:

Rip Curl to be the Group CEO was a logical next step and when that

opportunity arose with Xavier’s decision to resign and take another role it

created that opportunity. I am fortunate for that because it gave me the

potential to continue to work with the Rip Curl brand but also, I guess,

extend my experience across the Kathmandu and the Oboz brand.


With respect to any equity I received on the sale of Rip Curl, yes I have

maintained all of my equity and indeed have purchased additional shares

on top of the equity I received as part of the sale of Rip Curl and certainly

am a long term holder of the shares in Kathmandu and a long term believer.


With respect to my relationship with the founders of Rip Curl, it was very

much a professional relationship while I worked at Rip Curl for a long period

of time and I was respected by them, it was always a professional

relationship and to that extent for the last two years I haven’t had much

contact with them other than when I have bumped into them around the

place, so just a professional relationship.


Are there any further questions?


No further questions.


There being no further questions, I will now put the motion.


Please cast your votes now for Resolution 2 if you have not already done so.


Thank you.




Chairman:





Abby Foote:






RESOLUTION 3

I now move the following as an ordinary resolution:


That Abby Foote, who retires at the Annual Meeting and is eligible for

election, be elected as a Director of the Company.


I now invite Abby to address the meeting.


Thanks very much David, and tēnā koutou welcome everyone and

thanks very much for joining us here today. As David said my name is

Abby Foote and I am delighted to be here today at my first meeting of

Kathmandu Holdings to seek your support to my appointment to the

Board.


As you will note from my bio, I am also a director of Sandford, Z Energy

and Freightways. I have been a full-time professional director for over

10 years, so although I have a background in law and finance with





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Chairman:

Company Secretary:



experience in large projects, M&A, and treasury amongst other things,

primarily I bring to this role deep and extensive governance

experience. I have served on a mixture of listed and crown owned

entities and I am an experienced board and committee chair.


That experience enables me to bring a strong contribution against

many areas. I have particular expertise in the areas of strategy, risk,

Health and Safety, and ESG and I am conscious of the need for Boards

and companies to stay abreast of the increasing expectations of a wider

range of stakeholders.


Kathmandu’s long-standing commitment to sustainability in the

interests of stakeholders is part of what has attracted me to the

company. Kathmandu Holdings has a stable of iconic brands. Like many

New Zealanders, the Kathmandu Brand is well represented in my

wardrobe and my garage.


One of the many changes we have seen as a result of the COVID

experience for the last two years is the value of our lifestyle choices,

and in particular the value we place on the access to the outdoors.


The Kathmandu Holdings brands have been impacted by store

lockdowns around the world, but they are well positioned to support

consumers around the world as they emerge from lockdown

restrictions and look to get outside and enjoy the outdoors.


I’m really excited to be joining the organisation at this time and I look

forward to creating more value for you, our shareholders. I would be

very grateful for your support for my election to the Board today. I am

happy to answer any questions.


Thank you.


Thanks Abby.


Have we received any questions for discussion on the motion?


We have received one question. This is from Stephen Mayne:


COVID and border closures has made it very difficult for geographically

diverse boards to meet in person. Could Abby comment on how

challenging this has been for her as a non-executive director and could

the chair outline where all our directors and key executives are based

and how the challenges of border closures and COVID has been

managed.





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Abby Foote:



Chairman:



Company Secretary:

Chairman:



Thanks Stephen for your question. Look, like many people around the

world, not just directors, we’ve all had to adapt to being able to

conduct business online. One of the advantages that I have had is that

as Christchurch has been relatively less locked down than other parts

of New Zealand, I’ve actually had access to the Christchurch office of

Kathmandu and that’s enabled me to meet a number of the executive

team and Kathmandu team on the ground and also tour some of the

Distribution Centre. So, I feel that that has given me a really good

insight into the Kathmandu operations and that I’ve been able to get

to know my fellow directors sufficiently at this point in time from my

online engagements with them.


Thanks Abby and I'll pick up the second part of the question.


The geographic spread of directors: there are two in Auckland, one in

Christchurch, two in Sydney, one in Melbourne and one on the South

Coast, down close to Torquay. We have managed the dispersion and

the inability to get together as well as we could, the majority of the

time through video conferencing. From time to time it has been

possible to get subsets of the board together in some parts of the

country. For instance there were three or four directors who were able

to get together in Christchurch last year while others were spread out

and we’ve actually found video conferencing has worked well for us, it

is important to be very well prepared for the meetings and have good

papers and for all of us to understand that we have to manage it a

slightly different way in terms of our interaction, giving a bit more

space and time for people to start and finish what they have to say. But

I have to say I think the board has continued to operate very effectively

not withstanding having been unable to get together.


Are there any other questions Frances?


No further questions on this resolution.


Thank you, please cast your votes now for Resolution 3 if you have not

already done so.


Thank you.










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10. AUDITORS

REMUNERATION

RESOLUTION 4


Chairman:







Company Secretary:








Chairman:


Leo Foliaki:






Chairman:


John Harvey:






The final resolution on the agenda today relates to fixing the

remuneration of the Company’s auditor for the 2022 Financial Year.


I therefore move:


That the Directors be authorised to fix the remuneration of the Company’s

auditor for the ensuing year.


Have we received any questions for discussion on the motion?


Yes we have. The first question from Stephen Mayne:


The Australian Financial Review reported this month that Australia's

biggest auditor PwC has used dozens of unqualified workers, on lower

salaries and with less training and resources than their main office

counterpart, to complete audit work for large listed clients from an

unbranded office in Western Sydney's Parramatta. Could our PwC auditor

comment on whether this is true & whether any Kathmandu auditing was

done from this unbranded Parramatta office. Could ex PwC partner John

Harvey also comment on this situation?

Leo, would you like to pick that one up?


Sure David, thank you for the question. Obviously, the straightforward

answer is that predominantly most of the work for the Kathmandu Group

is done by the New Zealand office and we did not use any resources out

of the Parramatta office that was referred to. It is obviously a matter that

PWC Australian firm is looking into seriously and considering their

appropriateness of how that is handled going forward but for Kathmandu

those resources were not used as part of the Kathmandu Audit.

John, would you like to pick up the second part?


Yes, I’m happy to comment. I have been retired from PWC for over 12

years now. I have no ongoing involvement with the firm other than just

sort of through professional involvements such as a this one and therefore

I know no more about the allegations that have been made other than

what I have read in the Australian Financial Review. Thank you.


Thank you, are there any other questions.





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Chairman:


Company Secretary:







Chairman:





Company Secretary:

Chairman:




Yes, one further question from Stephen Mayne:


Given the interesting discussions across a range of topics today, including

the auditor pay issue, could the chair undertake to make an archived copy

of the webcast plus a full transcript available on the company's website.

Will the excellent past policy of lodging a full AGM transcript on the ASX

and NZX be continued this year. This doesn't happen in Australia and is

commendable transparency so well done for that.


Thank you Stephen, yes we are happy to continue to do what we have

traditionally done, including lodging the transcript. I’m not sure whether

the video will end up on the website, its just there is a lot going on on the

website but will certainly look into that, and we certainly have no

objection to doing it, we just want to make sure it’s the right thing for our

website.


Great no further questions on this resolution.


Please cast your votes now for Resolution 4 if you have not already done

so.


Thank you. Shareholders should ensure they have now submitted their

votes for all four of the resolutions set out in the Notice of today’s

Meeting. Voting will remain open until the conclusion of the meeting.


Once voting has closed, Link Market Services will tally the votes. The

results will be announced to NZX and ASX once counting has been

completed.


Thank you.


10. GENERAL BUSINESS

Chairman:




Company Secretary:


I would now like to give shareholders an opportunity to ask questions

concerning any matters addressed at this meeting or of a more general

nature concerning the Company.


Anybody who now wishes to ask any further questions, please ask your

questions using the “Ask a Question” button.


If we run short of time and are unable to answer your question online

today, we will endeavour to respond to you after the meeting.

Our first question comes from Bruce Parkes:





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Chairman:

Group CEO:



Chairman:

Company Secretary:






Chairman:





Company Secretary:



Can you identify how much of your online growth is from new customers

rather than regular Summit Club members changing their shopping

channel?


Good question, a tough one to answer, but I will pass it to Michael to see

if he can give some indication.


Thanks David, look, I don’t have the exact numbers off the top of my head

for the last year, but certainly we have seen a good balance of both

returning shoppers and new shoppers quite frankly for all of our brands,

remembering that Oboz brand has only just launched its online presence

in the last couple of months so obviously all of its shoppers are new. Rip

Curl doesn’t have a loyalty program at the moment but we are rolling out

one in 2022 and that will give us greater ability to track whether

consumers are returning consumers or new consumers. We’ll take the

question offline and see what we can do to answer it by other means.


Are there any more questions?


Next question from Stephen Mayne:


Since we paid $A350 million for Rip Curl in late 2019, have the founders

Brian Singer and Doug Warbrick remained involved with the business

through a consultancy or any other formal or informal arrangement. Along

with the Rip Curl CEO, they were issued $32m worth of stock as part of the

transaction. Have they retained these shares or subsequently sold out?


I can answer Stephen, that there has been no formal or even informal

involvement with the founders, Brian Singer and Doug Warbrick. They

have been casual supporters and enthusiasts of what is happening with

the company but beyond that no other engagement. Michael confirmed

that he has retained all of his shareholding here in Rip Curl which

transferred to a shareholding in Kathmandu and I don’t have the answer

as to whether Brian Singer and Doug Warbrick have retained their shares

or not, its not something I’m familiar with.


Our next question is from Stephen Mayne:


We claimed $41.13 million in the Australian government's JobKeeper

scheme over the past two financial years, putting us in the top 15 for ASX

listed companies in terms of JobKeeper claims. Many other ASX listed

retailers such as Premier Investments, Super Retail Group and Harvey

Norman repaid some or all of their JobKeeper claims. Why didn't we that?





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Chairman:













Company Secretary:



Chairman:



Group CEO:






Whether it made sense or not to repay JobKeeper claims needs to be

considered in a broad context. We’ve always felt like the pandemic has

caused a great deal of pain to companies and the various stakeholders in

companies. Shareholders for instance suffered quite significantly in

Kathmandu because we had to take a large capital raising at a significant

discount. We also did not pay any dividends for a period, so shareholders

missed out on those dividends so that’s quite a significant pain that

shareholders have worn. And then moving to staff, staff received no

bonuses in the 2020 year and many staff received reductions in pay as well

during that period, so staff wore a fair share of pain as well. The

government JobKeeper in both countries was specifically targeted to keep

employees in employment. When all of our shops were closed, we had no

income coming in and had no ability to pay those people except by

drawing down on retained earnings which were shareholder’s funds,

much of which had been immediately raised.


We thought it was and still believe that it was a very good public policy for

a government to target keeping people in jobs for the time when stores

could be reopened and that’s exactly what we did with the money. Not a

dollar of that money went anywhere, but where it was expected to go in

maintaining people’s employment. We think that the economy has

benefited and Kathmandu has benefited from that public policy and we

think the overall pain of the pandemic has been fairly allocated between

shareholders, staff and taxpayers.


The next question from Sivaswamy Mohanakrishnan:


Does the Company have a 3 or 5 years target/plan to reach in respect of

sales, profit, share price, dividend etc? Can any numbers be given to

shareholders on this? How is this being implemented and tracked?


I’ll just comment, we won’t be giving long term forecasts but I’ll just ask

Michael to talk about longer term planning and how the company thinks

about longer term performance.


Thanks David, look certainly we had an investor day a couple of weeks ago

and the detailed presentation is available on our website so I certainly

encourage you to review that in more detail if you haven’t had the chance

to.


Within that document we do a few callouts of where we think there is

potential growth opportunities for each of our brands and we specifically

talk about the international expansion opportunity for Kathmandu and

mention the $100 million sales target in the next five years. Likewise, we

talk about the potential for Kathmandu to grow by recovering sales that





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Company Secretary:






Chairman:





Company Secretary:



Chairman:





we’ve lost through the pandemic and through closed borders, we also give

some guidelines as far as Oboz immediate target to US$100 million sales.


We also have spoken today and previously in other meetings about a

minimum of EBIDTA target of 15% as a group. So really that is the extent

of which were comfortable in giving out some forward longer-term

guidance as far as where we’re headed and certainly encourage you look

through the details of that investor day presentation if you haven’t

already.


The next question from Stephen Mayne:


Kathmandu has more than 12,000 shareholders. What is going on with no

one in New Zealand bothering to register online and ask questions at the

AGM of this iconic company? Doesn't the New Zealand Shareholders

Association normally come along and ask questions at the AGMs of

prominent Kiwi public companies, so that they don't descend into a non-

event with no questions. Can the board at least line up some staff to ask

a few informed questions at next year's AGM.


Thank you Stephen and I obviously can’t speak for the New Zealand

Shareholders Association but we are delighted that you at least have filled

the gap to a pretty large extent and we do agree that this is a great

opportunity for shareholders to have the opportunity to ask questions and

to learn more about the company. So, we very much encourage them to

do that.


Question from Fiona Preston:


Gender and racial diversity are lacking on the Board and Leadership team.

Why has there been so little progress in this area to date and when can we

look forward to seeing meaningful change?


Fiona I am not sure that is true, I think we have a non-executive director

split on the board, now that Abby’s appointment has been re-elected

today of 40% female 60% male so that is adequate for most of the bodies

that are keeping a close eye on gender diversity on boards. Of our three

brands, Rip Curl, Kathmandu and Oboz, two of them are headed up by

women and generally speaking we have strong representation in all of the

Brands at the next level, I can’t say off the top of my head, Michael might

be able to say a bit more on just what the gender balance is at the next

level in the three brands, but Kathmandu generally speaking has had a

strong reputation for gender balance and diversity generally across the

company. Michael did you want to pick up on that at all?





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Group CEO:



Company Secretary:


Yes, thanks David, look definitely, its something that we as a company

always want to be better at, something that as David mentioned that two

of the three brands being headed up by females. We are proud of our

achievements in this space of course we can continue to be better and

that’s certainly in what we intend to do. As David mentioned as you go

down through the ranks of managers through all of our brands it’s a key

area of focus for us to ensure that we have the diversity across not only

gender but ethnicity as much as we can. So certainly it’s a key focus for me

as the CEO and a key focus for all of our leaders across the business.



No further questions have been received.


11. CONCLUSION

Chairman: Thank you very much. Ladies and Gentlemen, that concludes today’s

meeting. I thank you for your continued support and attendance today

and I now declare the meeting closed.

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